Какой Linux дистрибутив выбрать для ноутбука Acer Aspire V3-771?
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Acer Aspire V3-771 PowerStation Full HD
Экран: 17.3»
Разрешение: 1920 x 1080
Процессор: Intel Core i7
Оперативная память: 6 ГБ
Жесткий диск (HDD): 750 ГБ
Видеокарта: GeForce GT 740M
И хочу поставить на него linux (сейчас на домашнем ПК стоит ubuntu 13.04), ноутбук будет использоваться место домашнего ПК, для работы (веб-программирование) в linux’ах я не спец, пользовался ubuntu на домашнем ПК не так долго, всего 2-3 месяца.
Ubuntu в принципи понравилась, но возник вопрос какую версию ставить 12.04 LTS как стабильную и ждать 14.04 LTS или поставить 13.10 и опять же ждать выхода 14.04 LTS, подскажите что лучше или просто если есть опыт работы со всеми этими версиями/другими дистрибутивами linux, какой лучше выбрать, так же полагаю для моего ноутбука лучше ставить x64 архитектуру?
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очень правильный и хороший вопрос задал ТС. Например в моей Ubuntu 12.04 до сих пор после перезагрузки или гибернации отваливаыется русская раскладка клавиатуры. Добавляется она конечно быстро, но раздражает капитально. Так же точно проблемы с кнопками «<>|’ с немецкой клавиатурой — они просто не соотвествуют родным кнопкам на ноуте.
Я так понял из всего здесь написанного, лучше U12.04 еще ничего не появилось.
Я так полагаю, пакетный менеджер вам не важен, и вы подразумеваете выбором дистра, скорее, выбор окружения рабочего стола.
Знаете, я долгое время пользовался KDE, и сейчас (по глупости) поломал и пакетный менеджер, и кеды. После пары смен окружения, я вам уверенно скажу, что более юзабельной среды, чем KDE, под линуксом я не нашел.
Что пробовал:
1) Unity — я честно пытался себя к нему приучить, я искренне верил в слова «это с непривычки». Поверьте теперь мне — это не с «непривычки», Юнити абсолютно неюзабелен, чего стоит только список открытых окон сбоку, где они абсолютно никак, кроме легкой выпуклости и едва заметных стрелочек, не отличаются от обычных приложений, стоящих там же.
2) Mate + Compiz. Компиз в него очень криво интегрирован — это помимо того, что сам компиз глючит, например вот уже второй год никак не исправят баг с исчезанием куба при прокрутке «рабочих столов».
3) е17 — глупость не лечится, именно так я охарактеризую разработчиков. Есть в современных окружениях мегаудобная фича, когда хватаешь окно за верхнюю часть, ведешь к краю, и оно «расползается» на полэкрана (в кде, и компизе — когда последний не глючит — можно еще настроить «расползание» на «четверть» экрана). Я нашел тему, где их просили добавить эту штуку, они сказали, если вкратце, что-то вроде «мы не видим в этом смысла». Были еще какие-то мелочи там, в-общем пока что не особо юзабельная среда.
4) KDE. Конечно здесь какие-то баги были, но вроде в последнее время он у меня работал стабильно; да и потом, редкие баги еще можно стерпеть, а вот неюзабельность, как в других средах, нет. Однозначно, КДЕ лучшая среда.
Так что ставьте Kubuntu, или что-то с KDE.
UPD:
P.S. Да, еще, как вариант XFCE + Compiz, но Compiz очень глючный в последнее время, потому по юзабельности лучше в эту сторону пока не смотреть.
UPD2: К слову говоря, даже сейчас, пока я временно вынужден использовать Mate, я все равно юзаю КDE’шные приложения: Амарок(впрочем плеер, это действительно дело вкуса), Kate, Konsole. И, когда настраивал эмулятор, у меня не работал геймпад, пока я не открыл KDE’шные настройки — т.к. в настройках Gnome ничего относящегося к геймпаду попросту нет — и не зашел в настройки игровых контролеров.
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Sounds like your drive is in RST mode. There are 2 possible options, either switch to AHCI if you can (some laptops can’t), pressing Ctrl+S in the Main tab at the BIOS shows you an option to do so. You’d need to reinstall Windows if it is installed though, that’s a major change I’m afraid.
Or, access the drive using mdadm, under Linux it’s as if the drive were in a software RAID. This whitepaper may help: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/white-papers/rst-linux-paper.pdf
Software RAIDs can be complicated, but it’s the way RST seems to be accessible. However, I found that as long as one has the time and patience to go through things they work out fine.
The thing about Windows needing to be reinstalled isn’t completely accurate. You can get away without reinstalling it, it involves some steps or paying the license of a program like Macrium’s Reflect (the free version lacks the re-deploy feature), which prepares Windows to be booted in dissimilar hardware.
Think of it as knowing your way to a place going through a street, but suddenly the street is no more (don’t know why, say they built houses in the street). Even though there are other ways to get to that place, you (Windows) don’t really know because you never expected houses to be built in a street so you don’t look for other streets. As analogies go it wasn’t very good, but I hope it serves its purpose haha.
In this blog post you can find more info on how to go from AHCI to RAID, the steps you have to perform not to reinstall Windows, going in reverse requires the same: https://blog.workinghardinit.work/2018/11/28/moving-from-ahci-to-raid/
As far as performance goes, I couldn’t see anything meaningful when I did some tests back in the day; but I agree AHCI is certainly easier from a Linux standpoint, it just works.
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Linux on the Aspire 3 A315-41-R3DQ
I recently bought a Acer Aspire 3 A315-41-R3DQ with a Ryzen 5 2500U and i’ll share my adventure trying to install linux on this computer. First of all i must tell you that i’ve been using linux as a user for a few years but i’m not very techinical.
The computer came with Linpus Linux boot-up os and i tought that i could easilly install linux. First i tried to create a usb disk with Linpus but got a file differ error. Then i tried to boot Ubuntu 19.04 from a usb drive but i got several errors. After some search online i managed to boot Ubuntu with the «pci=noacpi» option on the grub menu. Everything worked fine and i tried to install Ubuntu to the HDD. In the last part of the instalation i got a error saying that Grub couldn’t save on UEFI (i can’t recall the exact words) and the installation was incomplete. When i rebooted the computer the only thing i got was a grub command line. I then tried to boot Manjaro and Fedora from usb drives but they weren’t recognize on boot. The computer comes only with UEFI (no legacy mode) and disabling Secure Boot didn’t help on any attempts.
Then i installed Windows 10 and updated the bios to the last version available (1.13) and tried to boot Ubuntu 19.04 from a USB drive: Ubuntu still only booted with the «pci=noacpi» option and the trackpad didn’t worked. When i tried to install Ubuntu to the hard drive the «Grub can’t save to UEFI» error still existed. This was my last attempt to install Linux on the Acer Aspire 3 A315-41-R3DQ and i’m now using Windows 10 on the computer.
If anyone knows how to install a linux os on this computer i would appreciate the help.
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In the installation media you are using to install Linux, ISO is x64 bit and you are installing in UEFi compatibility mode?
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Aspire One netbook and Linux
I got an Aspire One netbook for Christmas and after browsing around about Windows 7, I found that many people prefer Linux over Windows and this has tempted me to try Linux instead. I’ve always been a Windows user so I would like to try something new for a change.
What I would like to know is is Linux compatible with my netbook? The model I have is the D270-1466. Does anyone have this specific netbook who has installed Linux onto it? My netbook will mainly be used for the internet, music and as a word processor.
In case this info is needed, my netbook has the Atom N2600(1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache) with 1 GB DDR3 Memory and a 320 HDD.
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you can install linux on that system, but be forewarned, linux is more complicated to use than windows. if you would still like to try it, the version i recommend is linux mint 14. that is the newest version of linux mint, it is ubuntu based, and the most user friendly. i use it on my acer, i have it set up to dual boot that and windows 7. i dont recommend you dual boot as your computer is a little small for that. any other questions feel free to pm me.
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you can install linux on that system, but be forewarned, linux is more complicated to use than windows. if you would still like to try it, the version i recommend is linux mint 14. that is the newest version of linux mint, it is ubuntu based, and the most user friendly. i use it on my acer, i have it set up to dual boot that and windows 7. i dont recommend you dual boot as your computer is a little small for that. any other questions feel free to pm me.
Thank you so much! I’ll look into it a little more before going through with it but it’s good to know which version to use instead of just trying anything. When I first looked into Linux, some people said that Linux wasn’t very compatible with the processor in this netbook which is why I wanted to ask about it first before going through with anything.
So changing the OS won’t affect anything like the screen resolution or anything along those lines?
When I go through with this, I might be sending you a PM or two for help. I hope that won’t be a problem.
your system exceeds the minimum system requirements, and the screen resolution should be perfectly fine
I’m eagerly awaiting the Aspire One I just ordered (not the same model as yours), and I’m going to wipe Windows and install Linux immediately upon receipt. (In fact, I’m going to try to boot to a Linux USB drive and make a backup of the hard disk in an unbooted state.)
I’ve never used Linux Mint, but right now it’s the most popular distro, so it probably is indeed a good choice. My favorite distro is Fedora, though I’m thinking of installing something else. Maybe Mint because it’s popular. Maybe Debian because it’s very stable. Maybe Vector Linux because I’ve wanted to try it. Maybe PCLinuxOS because I used to use it and ran it continuously for something like 9 months without ever rebooting it. (Try that with Windows!)
I think it’s wrong to say Linux is more complicated to use than Windows. It’s definitely harder to get started, because Windows is already installed and Linux isn’t. But once you get it up and running, it’s at least as easy to use. I suffer through Windows all day at work (though at least I have Cygwin to keep me sane) and several distros of Linux at home. Linux is superior.
BTW, Arch Linux has a page devoted to tips for running Linux on the Aspire One.
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. My husband is one of the programmers for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, PuppyLinux, etc. The nice thing about Linux/Unix is that there are no Viruses to have to deal with.
Holy Cow! You’re very brave to post your phone number on a public forum.
You’re right about the no-virus advantage of Linux. When people refer to «computer viruses«, they really mean and should say «Windows viruses«.
Sorry for taking so long to get back to this thread. I didn’t expect any new posts!
I still haven’t installed it yet. I’m still reading up on it but it is tempting me more and more because from what I’ve read, it’s more suited for customizing it to how you want it unlike Windows where you get things you really don’t need or want. The one that appeals to me is the XCFE version.
One thing I did find is that while it wasn’t on the Linuxmint forums, I did come across some people who said that Linux doesn’t work on the Acer model that I have. Well, they only mentioned the D270 so whether it is the exact model I have or a different one, I can’t say. They mentioned something about and xserver.
I might go onto the forums to ask some questions about it. Two of them being about changing the desktop wallpaper and changing the mouse pointers. I like being able to customize those two things and I don’t know if it’s possible to do that in Linux Mint.
Ken, did you install Linux yet? How did it turn out for you? Thanks for the link to. I’ll check it out.
Thank you for the offer, Tracey. I won’t call but I just may drop you a PM when the time comes that I finally go through with this.
Ken, did you install Linux yet? How did it turn out for you? Thanks for the link to. I’ll check it out.
Yes, I installed Debian Linux because they aim for stability over rapid development. Their installation procedure is very smooth.
I had intended to simply wipe Windows7 off the disk, but I decided to shrink its partition and install Linux in a smaller partition, since I’ve never used 100GB on any machine, and this hard disk is 250GB. I booted SystemRescueCd from a thumb drive and used ntfsresize to do the resizing. SRC is a tiny version of Linux which specializes in tools to fix hard disk problems. But the resizing procedure was different than I expected, so I let it set for a while before I got back to it.
Now it’s nice to have a tiny Linux PC to take with me. I rarely take my Dell laptop anywhere because it’s so big. (It’s rather ordinary, but that’s big).
The Aspire ONE D270 is a beautiful netbook. Unfortunately, most Linux distributions can not currently — as of September 2013— run it, as they do not have drivers to work with its Cderview graphics. Before trying to install any of the many distributions of Linux, make sure that it’s kernel [kind of like the powertrain in a vehicle] was built handle the Cedarview chip, also know as PowerVR, gma500_gfx, and Intel GMA-3650. Shortly after the D270 reached the market Ubuntu —one of the most popular Linux Distributions— developed a driver which could be installed in it under Ubuntu’s «Precise Pangolin» model. Offshoots of Ubuntu such as Lubuntu, Xubuntu, and derivatives such Mint, and Pinguy and Zorin could also be take advantage of that driver. [Zorin and Pinguy frequently build-in capabilities that Ubuntu leaves up to action by the user]. Unfortunately, as far as I know, although the kernel used by Ubuntu in creating Raring Ringtail, its current model, can support the chip, Ubuntu did not develop the driver. So I’m uncertain whether any Ubuntu offshoot or derivative can properly handle graphics on the D270. If you want a «standard» Linux distribution, I would try Zorin installed to a USB-Key —the D270 can be booted that way— using LinuxLiveUSB Creator, a program which runs under Windows. I know from experience that at least three versions of Puppy Linux function very well. They are Upup 3.8.3 built by «pemasu», precise 5.7.1 built by Barry Kauler —both of these were created using precise pangolin binaries— and raring-3.9.9.2, also built by pemasu but using ubuntu’s raring binaries, albeit in such a way as to handle the Cedarview graphics chip. Running under Puppy Linux, the D270 is not only beautiful, but fast.
Just wanted to clear up some errata and add some additional information. The Cedarview graphics chip used by the D270 is actually the Cedarview gma600_gfx, also known as the Intel GMA-3600, licensed by Intel from PowerVR. Since my last post I’ve had the opportunity to explore running other variants of Puppy Linux, and have discovered at least two more which handle the D270’s capabilities very well. If you’re interested in how to get any of those Pups up and running on your computer, see my posts @ Puppy Precise & Raring and Slacko Pups on the D270.
Someone commented above about not having to worry about viruses on Linux. Well you don’t, but not because viruses can’t be written to invect Linux systems. It’s just that they’re not. A virus is a program. Programs can only run on the operating system they’re written for. Linux is open source, which means anyone can use it and modify it. So there are now hundreds of different Linux distributions which may, or may not, be able to run applications written for a different Linux Operating system. Additionally, a couple times a year Linux Devs build new kernels in order to take advantage of hardware advances. Once a year, sometimes more often, each of the creators of a Linux Distribution may rebuild a new version of their distribution using the new kernel. Applications which ran under the old kernel may not run under the new kernel. The result is that there are thousands of Linux Operating systems, which may, may not, or somewhere in between, be able to run programs from some other Linux Operating system. If you were a malcontent and were going to spend hours of your time trying to screw up other peoples computers, would you direct your energies to at most the couple hundred thousand computers running the most popular Linux Distriubution, or the couple hundred million users of Windows 7-8, or XP?
Part of the reason Puppy Linux runs as fast as it does is that it does not have to run anti-virus applications in the background. [It does, however, run a firewall providing a additional line of defense against intrusion to that provided by your router’s firewall]. The other reason is that most Puppys require only 256 Mbs of RAM. Programs are usually smaller than their Windows equivalents and Puppy, when there’s sufficient RAM, will load an entire program into RAM. The largest programs seldom exceed 100 Mbs. The D270’s stock 1 Gb of RAM provides more than enough memory to multi-task three or four programs without any noticeable delay.
If you hear «Linux» and think «arcane» and «absence of Graphical User Interface» you’re about 20 years behind. Google «Puppy Linux» and select «Images.» Most of those images look like Windows XP, which is what most Puppy’s look like the first time you boot into them. But you’ll see some which look like Apple. Some Puppys come that way. In others, there are applications which can easily be installed to create that effect. And there are other applications, also easily installed, which will make Puppys look and behave nothing like Windows or Apple.
By the way, just so that this post doesn’t read soley as a plug for Puppy Linux, when I asked on the Puppy Linux Discussion Forum what computers long-time users recommended, the Acer Laptops and Netbooks were among the first to be mentioned. And I purchased one only after considering its competitors.
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