Windows Server 2016 on HP DL380 G7 — unsupported

As we are upgrading our HP DL380 g7 to a newer server, I will now have a fairly decent server not being used anymore. I was thinking of putting Window Server 2016, but it isn’t listed as supported. I know other people that have used 2012R2 drivers without any issues. Is there any reason I can’t do this besides the obvious of not being supported by HP (5 year old server, so I don’t really care)? I plan to turn it into our DR server, so it would only be used for backups and running servers if the main Hyper-V failed. I am assuming this wouldn’t break any MS licensing right since I am buying a 2016 license for it?

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Why would you not make it a hypervisor, less issues with drivers unless you are referring to Hyper-v 2016

We use StorageCraft, so it would have that installed plus I would add the Hyper-V role for a failover.

I wouldn’t use unsupported in a production environment, but this is your DR so I’d be cautious but not overly concerned.

Try it, see what results you get, the fact it is not supported means no one would support you in the same way they would for supported OSes, but they will likely still give guidance.

Hyper-V should never be installed as a role, only directly. Windows Server should not need to be supported on a server at all, as only the hypervisor should be. I assume that HPE also does not support Hyper-V 2016, which is a problem. But if you had to, use Hyper-V 2012 R2 and Windows Server 2016 is all set for you then.

Hyper-V should never be installed as a role, only directly. Windows Server should not need to be supported on a server at all, as only the hypervisor should be. I assume that HPE also does not support Hyper-V 2016, which is a problem. But if you had to, use Hyper-V 2012 R2 and Windows Server 2016 is all set for you then.

The reason for the full install is for StorageCraft which has to runs on bare metal. I am adding the Hyper-V role, so I can live migrate servers to in the case of needing maintenance. Also if the main Hyper-V server failed, I would spool them up on the HP.

Hyper-V should never be installed as a role, only directly. Windows Server should not need to be supported on a server at all, as only the hypervisor should be. I assume that HPE also does not support Hyper-V 2016, which is a problem. But if you had to, use Hyper-V 2012 R2 and Windows Server 2016 is all set for you then.

The reason for the full install is for StorageCraft which has to runs on bare metal. I am adding the Hyper-V role, so I can live migrate servers to in the case of needing maintenance. Also if the main Hyper-V server failed, I would spool them up on the HP.

Since you buy the Server 2016 licenses you should not be worried about using Server 2012 R2 as it has downgrade rights. What you need to make sure is also that StorageCraft supports Server 2012R2 properly. If HP Supports 2012 R2, that is what I would use in the meantime. Hyper V 2016 server should be run and you probably can run the StorageCraft system on, just make sure they support it.

Hyper-V should never be installed as a role, only directly. Windows Server should not need to be supported on a server at all, as only the hypervisor should be. I assume that HPE also does not support Hyper-V 2016, which is a problem. But if you had to, use Hyper-V 2012 R2 and Windows Server 2016 is all set for you then.

The reason for the full install is for StorageCraft which has to runs on bare metal.

That would make sense if that is how Hyper-V worked, but it is not. No matter what it appears you are doing, Hyper-V goes on bare metal, always, no exceptions. It is a type 1 (bare metal) hypervisor. Installing as a role makes for a bloated control VM, nothing more. It cripples you without benefit. Best practices exist for a reason. This isn’t a «install this way. except for all these use cases.» It’s really a «never install this way, it’s a bad idea.» If it seems like you have a reason that you’d want to violate a best practice, chances are it is because there is something wrong in the logic. In this case, it’s the feeling that Hyper-V is polymorphic and changes between a type 1 and type 2 hypervisor depending on how you install it, but that’s not something that it can do.

If StorageCraft has to run on bare metal, then it can’t be virtualized. How would StorageCraft know if it is bare metal? As an application, it can’t tell the difference. Since StorageCraft is «always» installed in a VM itself, this doesn’t make sense as a requirement.

No, there’s no reason you can’t do it.

«Not supported» means you won’t be able to find drivers from HP guaranteed to work with that combination of hardware/OS. But as long as you aren’t trying to install something exotic, you’ll find that the standard equipment will be supported.

I run 2012R2 on G5s, for example, and have no problems, even though the support is in the same status.

If, in some circumstance, you find that you can’t get a driver to work with 2016 that you absolutely need, downgrade the install to 2012R2. It won’t affect your VMs at all — they can still be whatever OS you want.

In the end, remember that your goal is to make this server useful. Whatever gets you to that goal is fine.

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